perfect timing for an entry on tolerance ya. the sunday times just featured an article on how the number of complaints by residents in hdb houses about their "less than perfect neighbours" has increased over the years. i mean seriously, to whine and moan about that loud drilling noise or the occasional dragging of furniture is one thing. but to lodge a formal complaint or even resort to filing a police report is really making a mountain out of a molehill. have we as a nation developed into a people that expects prefect service, perfect neighbours, perfect enviroments, perfect systems, perfect etc?

on my flight back from switzerland, i had the most unpleasant experience of sitting in front of a singaporean mother of what i believed was three kids. well she was not supposed to be sitting behind me in teh first place. but after her youngest kicked up such a big fuss about getting the window seat, the nice gentil indian man behind me decided to give up his seat to her. i dont want to go into how i would have dealt with the situation of disciplining my kid on board a plane, but that wasnt the part that, using a more amiable word, amused me most. after she settled into her seat and had her dinner, i decided that it would eb a good chance for me to catch some shut eye. seeing that the dinner trays were all cleared, i lowered my seat into a more comfortable position. no sooner had the seat begun its decline, i felt an insistant tapping, or rather poking, on my shoulder. [excuse me] she said [i have a drink on my table]. well i wasnt really in the mood to argue with her that airline seats were designed to hold drinks even after the seat in front has been lowered to its maximum. i've flown my fair share of flights since young and have always had drinks on my table with the person in front of me with his/her seat fully declined. and there was never an issue. but i decided to avoid a confrontation by raising my seat back up. i quietly waited for her to finish her drink, which took more than half an hour i might add, before the stewardess clear her cup and she proceeded to the toilet. i then lowered my my chair back and got into a comfortable position for. just as i was enter lala land, i felt an incessant rocking on my chair and that voice again [excuse me!!]. she was trying to get back into her seat. so i raised my chair again to allow her back into her seat and lowered it again. now this is where it got totally absurd. she tapped my shoulder again and with that now etched in my mind voice of hers demanded that i raise my chair again. her reason? the inflight entertainment screen was too close to her face. i mean seriously, every single passenger i have seen has had no problems with viewing or even playing games with teh chair fully declined. i turned around and explained to her that it was designed to be like that and even adjusted the tilt on the screen for her to reduce the glare. and the nerve of her to rebutt me by saying that i should be considerate to her. i was of course fuming mad when she said that, and coupled with my lack of sleep thus far, i retorted that she had to considerate to me as well. and sitting besider her, her husband had no words to offer to this dispute at all. perhaps he did not know wat to say or perhaps he too felt that his wife was a bit too overbearing. but not wanting to create an ugly scene by provoking her, i raised my seat up and that's how my seat had to be for the rest of the journey. perhas i was in the wrong to even get upset over such a small issue, and i acknoledge that i certainly did not handle the situation in the best way possible. but the purpose of recording this down here is just to illustrate how some of us singaporeans have really become so self absorved and self centered. the world must accomodate to our requests (and i'm not just talking about the mother, the son refused to sit down even as the plane was about to start taxi-ing because he wanted the window seat and not once did his parents shout or chide him). is it perhaps a direct result of the speed in which our country's affluence has increased that we now believe that we should demand nothing but the very best from others? can we no accept that there are going to be situations where we will inevitably be inconvenienced? has the concept of taking and more importantly giving been erased from our minds? do we now believe that we are superior to a multitude of people and that we should be accorded greater privillages than others? i know for sure that these are questions that i have posed to myself and i admit i have no answers. every action i take each day, i subject myself to the same scrutiny every night. perhaps humility is something we've really missed out on in all these years of nation building and it is certainly time to start acting on these deficits before we evolve into a bunch of arrogant bigoted monkeys.

The Swedish Curling team - Gold medal winners of the Winter Olympics 2006 in Torino

anyway here's a nice new sport that i've been watching recently. it's called curling and it's really quite amusing to watch initially but the amusement soon dies down and evolves into awe. it really is quite a fun sport to play and i must say i would like to try it out one day. ciao.

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i finally got quite sick of seeing my "haha"s and my "..."s throughout my entries. maybe it's just today, a more sombre mood i'm in. i guess to some extent it reflects a sort of personality trait of mine, but sometimes i admit it gets a little overbearing. especially when see 10 million "haha"s when your days isnt exactly going very well.

as with the growing trend of each week, i spent saturday lazing around and loafing in front of the televison. discovery channel and NGC are really quite something actually. the amount of information one can get just in one hour is bewildering. it provides guilt free entertainment for me because now at least i'm sort of doing something constructive while i relax.

no tennis for me tomorrow either. courts have been booked for a tournament. dang. so i guess it will be another day in front of the tele for me. its really high time that i start to run. but i really need to run with someone. i need the push from someone to get me started. otherwise, the next ten months or so will be spent lounging on the couch trying to absorb more general knowledge that i can handle.

speaking of watching stuff on tv, i just watched [the assassination of richard nixon>] today. it's been quite a while since i've watched a movie whose whole emphasis is not simply to tell a story. the beauty really lies in the though provocation that it forces upon you once the credits start rolling. recently, most movies i've been watching have been rather typically hollywood films and its starting to get a little bit too boring. i'm really looking forward to [munich]. so anybody would like to be my movie buddy for that?? *hint hint*


i've just asked my sis to borrow [vera drake] for next weekend's "couch fest". i think it should be quite suitable for a gp lesson screening. ah it's really times like this where i feel kinda sad that i will not be teaching gp. sure math is something quite spectacular and beautiful (yes i noe, very cliched superlative) but at the jc level, math is more of a tool than an artform. i admit that there is a certain critical level of interest that any respectable teacher should invoke in his or her classroom, but really, to try and attempt to convert every "non-believer" into a fanatical connoisseur of math is really quite, for lack of a better phrase, a dumb thing to even think about. just like in the arts, there will be people who do appreciate it and those who think that it is a complete waste of time money and resources. the most important thing in life, i guess, is really balance (or BAAALORNCE as oura used to say). there is really only so much that one can really hope to achieve in invoking interest in math, whereas in gp, the grounds for exploration are almost infinite. alot of poeple believe that creative thinking in our students (or lack thereof) is a result of having a "textbook crunching" science and math cirriculum, which is true to a very small extent, but i think creative thinking is really something that can be best developed in gp classes. as long as one can formulate an opinion about an issue, and than translate that into an argument considering all sides of the story, then one has already the capacity for very creative and original thought. i've always loved gp lessons, and i'm kind of sad that i dont get to do the things that we used to do in gp class any longer. it's funny how when i try to strike up a conversation in the context of a friendly banter, most people would mistake that as a attempt to incite an argument. i've almost given up trying to talk about anything other than the most senseless routines of daily life and crude jokes to some them. so when on occasion i get into the situation of a nice exchange with gerri or roon or others who would indulge me, it really makes my day.


wow. enough of my crapping. i feel so awkward trying to tpe in grammatical sentences but i think it really is necessary. my grammar and more importantly spelling and vocabulary have been on a rapid decline since jc. i really hope i dont end up as someone who speaks both terrible english and terrible mandarin. ok. time for some mangoes. ciao!

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sigh... logically i should have done logic... haha flipped thru some of the material.. and it seems interesting and i could actually do some of the qns in tut 3 even though i dun even noe wats being taught in the lectures... arrrggh... not that i'm not enjoying jap... i am... but learning a new lang is really time consuming... haha and i'm not really sure i have the motivation to really push forward...

urrrghh... i have to really work hard for jap if i wanna even begin to enjoy classes more... haha whereas i would hafta prob spend less effort in trying to enjoy yang yue's lessons... haha i guess it's a matter of choosing the more tedious but rewarding route or the quick and easy path... haha...

its evenings like these... every sunday tuesday and thrusday evenings when i feel very tired and unmotivated cos another tutorial awaits me the very next morning... haha... i dun enjoy jap classes as much as i tot i would i guess probably cos i'm taking it alone... with no frends that is... and cos well... i'm probably one of the weaker ones in class... haha i guess i can fully understand y some people choose to take modules with frends rather than opt to choose modules they would prefer... haha i mean i've taken quite a few math modules by myself... and well those were ok... haha cos... i guess i dun really struggle that much... but picking up a new lang is really a totally different issue... and along with the rigidity of the japanese method of learning the language... it further heightens the pressure...

jamie asked me the other day if jap or french in nus was more fun... haha i told her.. i was not in a good position to make that assesment cos i took french with frends.. lots of them in fact... but now i feel... even if i had close frends rather than the aquaintances i've recently made in class... i would have still prefered french... haha i guess it's probably due to the method of teaching... haha i guess u would say it was a notch higher in the fun and relaxing department and one down in the stress factor bar...

but nevertheless... i've already made the choice to study jap... and i'm not gonna be abandoning it just cos i've now declared it as s/u... i mean... watever happens to me.. it's cos of a decision i made in the past and so i gotta live with it... haha i chose my own destiny in this case... so i shld really quit whining... but indulge me for a sec will ya... haha

anyway... talking abt whining... let me just write down my stand on an issue here... i try as best as i can not to complain about inefficiencies... from simple things like administrative slowdowns to traffic bottlenecks... i really try my best not to blame someone or something for the disarray... cos i feel that... its really unfair to anyone to just simply point a finger at someone and condemn the person to being cause of the earth's misfortunes... cos no matter how much u've seen or heard... one never really does have the full picture... dun u really hate it when u get blamed for something that was out of ur control or something that really wasnt ur fault? i noe i really hate that feeling... so why do we seek to do that unto others? so fine... maybe blaming the whole collective group of people seems like a good way to disperse the frustration... however... contrary to what most people think... i believe the net effect is equivalent to simply blaming every individual withing that group... sure some may argue that without such checks... it would be impossible for systems to progress and things to change for the better... but really... i think we've grown to a stage where we cannot even accept the smallest of inconveniences... i admit... i blame my taxi driver when i'm late... but i realise my flaw and i'm trying to change... haha we... as a nation... have to develop a more tolerant nature... somehow in our amazing development over the past few decades as a country... we've failed to inculcate in our young the concept of tolerance... tolerating something doesnt necessarily jsut mean lowing ur standards... it also means not making urself mad over trivial matters... learning to take in life in its entirety and embracing ever event in it... learing to accept that we dun live for others to serve us and that we are not the centre of the universe... learning that we are human afterall and that we make mistakes... think about it... everytime u stop to think about the horrible service u recieved u waste that time mulling over it... u waste the energy getting frustrated over it... u waste ur day which could have been a happee one... is it really worth it?


haha on a happee note... look at this... dementieva in a belgian choc factory... and wat is she holding? a box for clijsters... hahaha i wonder if the pic was taken intentionally or accidentally... hahaha ciao ya all...

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hahah... wat a tiring sat nite and sunday morning... haha went nite cycling... the food race with qiang hy and jp... haha... havent seen the latter 2 for quite a while... haha called our team 3-niners... haha initially... qiang was the only one with the motivation to actually try out for something during teh race.. haha the rest of us were more keen on enjoying a relaxing evening eating and cycling tog... haha... but once the race started.. i guess adrenaline got the better of us... haha


our first station and it was a watermelon eating stop... haha...

we cycled from staton to station across eastern and central singapore from food centres to tiny shophouses... haha it was really quite enjoyable... save for the bottleneck at the second station where we wasted 1.5 hours just sitting there waiting... it was terrible... hahaha... so bad in fact.. that when we reached our next station... we bumped into the "pro" team... comprised of RVwq and his frends from cycling club... and they already completed 7 stations... haha from that point on we knew we were sort of out of the competition... haha


low morale when we were made to wait 1.5 hours at the next stop...

by the time we reached our 6th station (out of 10)... it was almost time to call the race off... so we decided... with about 15 mins to spare... not to try and make it for the 7th station wich we reckoned was pretty nearby... cos we were in a rather nice location to have a sumptous breakfast... haha... it was this AIRCON dim sum place in jalan besar... haha the food was quite nice... haha not excellent but it wasnt too ex either... haha... so we sat there chatting and joking about of blunders... haha...


haha deciding to have a good breakfast rather than continue to race...


a weird pose of jp letting yq try a da bao which we had only cut into 2 pieces...


haha our half eaten breakfast... hahaha cost us each less than 5 bucks.. hahaha

when it was time to leave... we referenced our street directory again... and plotted our route... haha... we had to make our way thru a short stretch of geylang b4 we turned into mountbatten road... haha but as we cycled thru geylang... which was not a pleasant experience at 5 in the morning... we just never seemed to find the exit... we went thru so many lorongs... i saw 17 pass by... and i told them... (since i was the rear "guard") that i was quite sure we did not miss it cos i was actually trying to look out for it... hahah... but by the time lor 30 plus came about... i was quite sure we did... hahaha... so i redirected them towards tg katong road for a straight journey back to ecp... haha but we had to cross the ecp highway en route... and because of a detour in doing that... we were the last team to arrive... terrible... so we decided not to head back to the meeting point for the prize pres (we were too embarressed haha)... we went to a nearby breakwater/beach... and sat down again chatting and enjoying the sunrise... haha


haha deciding to laze around waiting for the sun to rise instead of going back to see wq get his prize... hahahaha


and with not much clouds... the sunrise was quite worth the wait afterall...

then after we returned the bikes and chatted with lt... we proceeded to find our way home... haha we boarded 55 (i think) cos it was qiang's direct bus back and the other 3 of us needed to get to eunos mrt... haha somehow... about 100m away i saw the mrt track... and i sed... "oh yeah we're reaching"... then we carried on chatting on the bus and when i looked back.. i saw the track 100m behind us... so i sed "errrm isnt that the mrt?"... but qiang sed it prob was the expressway... hahaha but eventually we realised it was indeed a missed station... hahah so for teh second time today... we missed a stop... haha quite embarressing for a group of army officers who spent alot of time in army doing recee and navigational exercises... haha... but yes we were tired... haha

i caught 151 home opp xj's house (ya somehow we ended up in hougang) and huang yun and i went into deep slumber on board the bus... and before i knew it... i felt a tap on my shoulder and hy telling me that he missed his stop... by the time i got my orientation right... it was just in time to press the bell and alight at the next stop which was oppo my house... hahah... so had iit not been for hy... it would have been the 3rd stop i would have missed yesterday... hahaha...

spent the whole day slacking after that... haha my ass hurts... haha and as yq sez... hahaha no more nite cycling in the near future... hahaha ouch... hahaha

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haha.. today's supposed to be a love filled day rite? haha... well here's my bit of luv!!

HAPPEE V DAE!!!

haha there that's enuff... the day i cannot afford... haha i haf no cash with me... haha no money to buy presents nor to engage in fine dining... hahaha... i wonder wat the prices are at LES AMIS now... haha... saving up to treat qiang and ting there as promised since i cheapskately got my 5 last sem... well prob on qiang's bdae ba... so i got a while more to save up enuff $... haha

u noe how it is when ur at the age when u feel like home is kind of the place u dun really wanna be... u could be out at coffee joints at shopping malls at clubs at parks... anywhere is better than dull ol' home... cos out there u have a life and once u reach back... cold reality starts at u in the face... we've all been there at some point i think... i got so restless when i was at home last time... haha... now... it takes more to get me out of the house... haha perhpas its laziness also... haha i dun wanna endure a bus ride to orchard... or a train ride to town... i dun wanna waste time getting ready to go out... i'd much prefer to invite my frends over (of course given sufficient time to tidy up my room) haha... indeed... even going to a fren's house is more appealing than hanging out at starbucks now... i wonder y...

speaking of which... haha i was just thinking about this today in the honours room... hahah... the reason i hate exams is not cos i have to study... haha i dun study... so naturally i dun have a dislike for doing it... haha... the reason i hate exams is cos the people around be become too busy to do anything with me HAHAHA... its true... i feel so alone during examination periods... haha of coure i shld be studying... haha but u cant teach an old dog new tricks... haha i never fitted into the mugger profile... haha it just doesnt seem natural to me... hahah... so if any of my frends actually feels the same way abt exam periods (i doubt there will be many who still have exams in teh first place.. haha) rememeber that i'm always available for company... hahaha

haha just a thought... as people become more affluent... people tend to be more affected by the slightest of inconveniences... and then the whining starts... haha... whilst it is amusing to listen for a while... it gets sickly dull and occasionally irritating... and what's the irony abt the whole thing? i'm complaining about people complaining... sigh... haha

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haha changed layout cos hexiang sed it was too hard to read... haha this one looks like the font is too small... hmm i wonder if i shld make it bigger... or let pple just change it on their browser options... haha

my sister has been playing her new mew album day in day out and i'm hooked onto it too... haha yeah she's my only source of new songs as i dun buy cds nor listen to the radio... haha but not bad... her taste is good... hahaha

short post... haha

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haha... finally able to not wake up at 7 or at 5 (when i have jap vocab quiz that day)... thursday is the only day i dun haf classes at 8... hahah... so its a luxury to wake up now... at 1030h... hahaha... got jap lecture and combinatorics seminar later... haha actually i think thursday is the most fun day... except maybe today... haha supposed to finish up my stuff and go see tkm... its a self made deadline... cos i feel bad for not having done anything thepast week... haha sometimes i regret taking jap.. not cos i dun like learning it... but because i'm not that great in languages and hence have to spend more time studying them when i could have taken a math module and have more time to do my own thing... like my thesis for example...

hmmm sometimes in life... its all about how much u desire something... how much ur willing to wrok towards achieving that goal... how much u r willing to sacrifice... haha i realise that i havent reached a point where i want something badly enuff to work hard at it... haha i've been a slacker all my life... i never study... i never do my homeowrk... i'm like a teacher's worst nitemare... ok fine... maybe with the exception of gp... (i think i was over enthusiastic in class) hahaha... but yeah... i never really mugged for anything at all... i procrastinate... and i resort to last minute cramming... and so far i've been lucky to be able to keep my head above water... hahaha... i've not achieved excellant results in anything i do... but somehow... even though consciously i would like to differ... i find that i'm happee with my life... haha everything happens for a reason i guess... all the worries about 2nd uppers all the envy of pple who get first... really is just a temporal thing... haha when its all done... i may not be able to say that i have done my best... and i may not be able to say that i've tried... haha but i'll still be happee... because of all the tiny little things in life... having goals is good... achieving them is even better... but being unhappee cos u did not... is really something not worthwhile... the best scenario would be to be able to handle both... haha but i'm not destined for greatness... haha but i am destined to be happee... hahaha...

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I'm not great in languages either. Sigh look what I'm majoring in.


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hmmm... watched "y intelligence fails" on discovery channel over the weekend... haha and i realised it had something to do with what i had written previously... the docu essentially presented 3 case studies of how sophisticated intelligence networks could easily break down...

the main reason for each individual country to develop its own intelligence agency is of course for a sense of secruity... if u noe what ur neighbours/allies/enemeies are up to... u would be in a better position to make informed decisions... knowledge is power and more importantly... current information is crutial to one's survival...

now the three case studies were the egyptian attack on isreal... the japanese invasion of singapore and of course the 911 terroist attacks... all three scenarios which occured decades apart... were the result of almost identical circumstances... firstly... the countries who were the victims were before the attacks... were the ones who were the undisputed superior in terms of military might... the isrealis had just expanded its territory into egypt by 3 times in just 6 days pervious... the british colony of singapore... was considered to be the mightiest fort in south east asia... and the united states... but one thing they also had in common was their belief that they were invulnerable to any offensive measures from the opposition...

so what really went wrong... in isreal... top officials recieved information about possible strikes by the egyptians long before the first round was fired... egyptians were trying to procure arms from the soviet union... the soviet union started evacuating its diplomats a few days before the scheduled assault... even the king of jordan... flew in secret to isreal to inform them of the impending invasion... so it was not impossible for them not to see that an attack was imminent...

in singapore... battle analysts gave updated talks on japanese strategies to british officers in singapore... japanese reconaissance troops were discovered scouting a possible landing site... and in the states... the terrorists had already been on the suspect list from 2 years ago and had been closely monitored...

so the information was there... they had the most up to date information possible... but still... everything went wrong... y? because of blind faith in superiority... the isrealis did not believe the egyptians could even contest a battle with them for they had air superiority... the british generals in singapore scoffed at remakes made by the battle analysts about the esprit de corps training as well as efficiency of the japanese troops... the bush administration had previously not place terrorism as one of its main priorities... all these made the information useless... white elephants...

its is true that hind sight is always 20/20... and yes we should learn from these lessons... as aptly put... surpise is the weapon of the weak against the strong... regardless of the situation... even in our daily lives... we should not close our minds to the endless possibilities in front of us... change is omnipresent... its the only constant in life... so we cannot get too comfortable with wat we have now... likewise... information is only good if acted upon... words in one ear and out the other are worthless regardless of the price it was bought at... so let us try to take away 2 things... to never be complacent no matter how successful one is... and to never treat any piece of information that comes ur way like scrap paper...

haha ciao...

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i really hate it when i have to deal with an especially opinionated person... more so when we have opposing views... but really... thinking about it from a different perspective... i guess the only reason y i shun such interactions is cos i am one myself...

dun get me wrong... having opinions is not a bad thing... in fact.. i think it is the very basis to us being living breathing homosapients... but the extent to which we regard our own opinions and likewise that of other people... is really one of the defining characteristics of our personality... i really hate to admit this but... its true... i can probably fit into the mould of the exact kind of person that i would really hate to have a debate with... i used to be worse i think... in jc and in army where i would stand steadfast on my position and not budge occasionally even when obvious and fatal flaws in my argument were pointed out... i guess it sort of stems from the imaturity of me as an individual then... but i feel that perhaps the way we deal with our opinions and likewise that of other people's... has a deeper more fundamental root than that...

the intrinsic 'need' to be right and perhaps the desire to see ur 'opponent's' views crumble before urself... are possibily the main reasons for such behaviour... so naturally guys tend to be more guilty of being more assertive about the way they view things... it's sort of a cultural thing that affects guys more than girls i suppose... we somehow feel the need to protect our image especially amongst the people we know or work with... so when we choose to outwardly express an opinion on something... we have already made a commitment to ourselves to defend it (or die trying)... it's the sort of testosterone induced brainlessness that really defines us as guys... being wrong results in loss of face and makes u appear weak.... a primitive sort of mechanism that works (or used to work) in the days when men carried clubs and went out hunting for game before returning home with dinner... like many of our other mamal brethern... we still feel the need to be the alpha male in a pack and not play second fiddle to anyone else... i guess in some sense our behaviours are affected by evolution in someways (or maybe the lack thereof)... even though we have developed sophisticated cultures and even more complex human-human interactions than was possible 10000 years ago... we still retain the primal and savage traits our ancestors eons ago needed to ensure their survival...

but really... is it relevant in our society now? does having one's point of view smashed destryoed and obliterated in ur face really damage one's social standing or maybe even one's eligibility? hahai dunno but i shall stop myself here... before i ramble too much... haha maybe later.... hahah

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wow.. i never knew the concoction was sooo powerful... haha today... i gave in to my cravings... haha i headed off to ghim moh afterschool for some ah balling tang yuan... haha i bot 16 sesame, 2 red bean and 6 peanut... hahah alot huh... haha i gave some to my grandmom.. hahah but really... i never knew the ginger soup could warm one up liddat... haha either today is a really hot night... or... its the result of the ginger soup... haha... i think i'd make a fortune if i were to export this to the scandinavian countries... hahaha

i realise i dun read mewspapers much these days... haha its a sad thing really... i never used to read it much... but at least i used to read the comment and analysis portions judiciously... haha now... i dun even read the funnies.... urrrghh... haha i hate it when i'm stuck trying to think of how to pharse myself... haha i mean... i dun even read silly life entries now... haha when i used to be addicted to reading sumiko tan's weekly entires in life... haha i used to love her style of writing... and incoprated as much of it as possible into my own style... haha now... i think i have none watsoever... haha everything has gone to waste... haha all the time i spent developing one is all for naught... sigh... maybe i did choose the wrong major afterall... until now... i really haf no clue as to y i chose math... i stil vaguely recall my options after a levels... i think it was either linguistics or anthropology in uol if i could get the scholarship... or math in nus... in fact... i think most people who knew me when i was in jc... would be surprised that i'm doing math... haha... for some reason... they all had the impression i wanted a career in journalism... haha which i did i dun deny... oh well... too late for regrets... i'm doing math now... and i guess i can only move forth and try to make best of my situation... haha dun get me wrong... haha i'm happee doing math... it's just a bit upsetting to know i've lost something else over these years in doing so...

oh well... haha all this cos someone just asked me if i wanna give gp tuition... haha oh well... its back to waiting for law and order SVU... haha dunno y i like the show... its a bit gross... hahaha

{8:01 PM}

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well... u win some, u lose some... think abt what u've gained in every step u make! u'll be happier, isn't it?

By  Gerri, at 7:01 PM  

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