on another note... i'd like to re-iterate that i really respect the government's decision not to succumb to political pressure... it has been one thing i've always admired about the singaporean government... the fact that their policies are based on what they think is right for the country and not simply decorative policies popular with its people or with other nations... sure i may have some bones to pick with them... but on the whole... i'd be lying if i said i was disgruntled...

some people may agrue that people like me really impeed reforms and improvements to our social structure... they may even say that people like me are simply brain washed or oppressed to the extent that we simply agree to whatever the people high up there tell us to do... and with no free will and no voice to dissent... we become numb mindless folk going about our menial tasks everyday... sounds like it really is as bad despotism... but is it really? freedom of speech together with a whole host of other liberties granted as rights to citizens of other countries comes at a cost... and to the mathematics inclined... it's simply an optimization/programming problem... our result really depends on what we intepret these costs to be... for me... i can live with the current situation here in singapore... no correction... i wouldnt want to live anywhere else with a different cocktail of policies that the current one here... i'm willing to give up some of my rights... for my own right to security... my own right for peace of mind... be it in terms of employment rates or costs of living or military security or a low crime rate... these are all the things i value more than the oppourtunity to carry a plycard and protest in the streets... or to write distrubing and hate-brewing messages on the internet or the newspapers...

some foreigners actually think most singaporeans are oppressed... for sure there are some who do not voice their opinions simply because of fear... but is that the large majority? think about what singaporeans in general really have to complain about... the rise in gst... the rise in bus fares... teachers not doing a good job...examinations being to difficults (or with errors)... come on... singapores do not fear complaining... i think for one... we're like the best people in the world for finding fault with anything... give us a polished pieces of cutlery and i guarantee that we'll find the flaw in seconds for u... but really why have we developed a culture that is seemingly so distasteful? could it be that we really have nothing else to complain about and we actually whine about such trivial matters to satisfy our intrinsic need for complaining? i mean we dun have issues like war or major sexual or racial discrimation problems or corruption or a large variance in wealth to handle... so we deal with the nitty gritty details... we dun complain that the soup is too salty (because it isnt) and so we complain that the table cloth is too thick or something as silly as that... and i'm fine with it really... i mean i whine about people whining about such things quite often... but really this brings me to the point that much to everyones displeasure... i think it's not that singapores are oppressed... its really that we have nothing much to complain about...

everyone has their own way of doing things... there are soooo many countries that provide its citizens with the freedom of speech... and many others with a whole host of activities... so my statement is this... singapore's policies may be hard handed... and some may not be able to take it... but really there are a large bunch of us who absolutely love it here and who want things to continue on the track that it has been going on... so anyone who has major issues with them should i guess consider an alternative state to call home... i mean it's really not too difficult to come up with a check list of things u want and find ur perfect place on the surface of this planet... but for me... my check list is in place here... i may not always be happy... but i'm happy enuff on the whole...

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hmmm... been really irritated by the whole hype abt the hanging of the drug trafficker... i mean... at the risk of sounding really unfeeling or uncompasionate... why is it such a big deal now?

to me the fact is simple and straightforward... when we play a game... we follow the rules... when we gamble at a casino... we follow the rules... so y not now... strict guidelines have already been laid out and i'm pretty sure most people know about the consequences of trying to smuggle drugs into singapore... so why are people from other countries getting upset about it? some people say it's barbaric and inhumane... and i agree that killing off another human being can indeed be seen as cruel... but that really isn't the question is it? the point really is that the guy took a gamble and has to pay for it with his life now... it's really as simple as that... i feel sorry for the mother and his loved ones for it is really his actions that have resulted in their sadness and agony... much like a gambler who loses all his money on one spin of the roulette... he has to live with the fact that he took a risk and it did not pay off... y i for one would certainly gamble more if i knew that some governments could help argue my way out of these losses... the same goes for the death penalty... it's as simple as that... the choice really is up to u... u take a risk... u gamble with ur life on the table... if it works out.. u get rich.. if it doesn't... u give ur life... it's as straightforward as that... and the whole idea of such a law in the first place is to deter people for doing such a thing... and yet there are individuals who constantly seek to play the game and end up losing their lives...

i feel for the family and friends of the individual... and my condolences to them all... 25 is really a young age... barely 2 years older than me... its sad that his life has to end now... but really... he made the decision by himself... i once has a french teacher who was vehemently against the death penalty... when i tried to reason with him the rationale behind my thoughts... he replied... "when we jaywalk... we all put our lives at risk as well... so why do people still do it?"... in fact that was exactly my point... people who jaywalk are indeed putting their lives at risk... and the payoff for succeeding? getting to the other side more quickly... but really... the risk of getting knocked down is many times smaller than that of getting caught smuggling drugs into singapore... people who think that the death penalty is barbaric probably are right... and that is exactly the reason why it is used here... to make sure fewer people take up such a wager... but when someone eventually does... proceedings just really have to follow... like in the recent the apprentice 3... when donald trump fired this guy whose team lost because another member had gained immunity and basically slacked his way thru the episode... he told the guy who was fired... that regardless of the circumstances... he had to play by the rules of the game... they were set and he had to go by them... so wake up people... wake up and play by the rules... it's not difficult to do it... millions of peoples have...

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haha okie... back from the opening round of exams... haha went very well i must say... havent felt so good since... year 1 maybe... haha... hope i dun maek too many careless mistakes though... haha ok 2 more to go and i'll be off to freeze my butt off in freezing europe... gosh... my frends studying there are ALL complaining that the weather now is extremely cold and it's not even winter yet... haha it's already snowing in zurich!! wow... and it's -3 in stockholm... can u imagine wat it will be like in kiruna? haha i think my camera wun work... hahaha my sis sed to go buy a camera warmer... haha is there even such a thing?... maybe i shld make one... haha

yeah no time to talk abt frommers... haha got 2 more papers in 2 days time.. haha but u can go read... haha go to the frommers page and search for singapore... haha it's kinda fun to read wat tourists (and tourist guide writers) say abt singapore... haha some of it is indeed very true... whereas other... (like comparing the smell of durians to that of old tennis shoes...) haha i simply cannot relate to.. haha

anyway it has been a long time since i watched a nail bitting match... and sunday i had the chance to enjoy 2 of them.. haha the atp masters cup singles and doubles... haha i think i literally chewed my nails off... haha but yeah the matches that day were truly spectacular... haha and to write it out in words would do it injustice... haha... but yeah i'm sad it was santoro and llodra's last match together... haha they are such a funny pair... haha

speaking of which... roland garros tickets are availabel for reservation... haha i'm wondering if i should go get some... maybe when i get back... but i need to give more tuition... haha so any one there who has and lobangs pls tell me... preferably JC... J1 or J2 doesnt matter... haha

okie it's back to flipping thru notes... haha au revoir!

{10:04 PM}

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hmm i can'r quite recall... but i did have something interesting to pen down... a pity i've forgotten... haha so u'll see it in due time i guess... haha... anyway i did a bit of studying today... and i realise one thing... after doing something frequently... one tends to settle into the swing of things and its pretty difficult to climb out of that comfort zone...

really... i've found myself less motivated to study this sem... a bad sigh... perhaps becasue of the lack of stress... and when i do study... i realise another thing... i think my mindset has changed so much that i find it hard to get into an 'applied math' mindset... haha i guess its a bit funny to even mention this... i mean what could possibly be the difference between applied and "not-applied" math? i assure the difference is quite large... whilst reading the lecture notes... i realised one thing... alot of things are taken for granted... why certain things are the way they are and alot of stuff is given as a fact... kind of like the a levels if u will... except with material of greater complexity... i grew very frustrated with the incompleteness of the way things were presented and overwhelmed by my instinct to try and find out how and y certain things were the way they were... i guess it took me a while before i eventually got the results i wanted and then i realised yet another thing... i could very well derive almost the exact same thing my applied math classmates would memorise and could gather alot of abstract data from what it mean... however... being an applied module... i found it really difficult to re-intepret these bits of information into really useful data... my frends on the other hand could do it without batting an eyelid... haha... i guess to me... it's quite uncommon to have a physical meaning to the math that i have been doing for so long... and now i'm stuck in a place where i really do have to know wat all the symbols i can churn out so easily actually means in reality... i realise i'm very used to finding relationships between pieces of data and analysing them as they are (just bits of data)... which sadly in this course.. i feel... is not really sufficient...

i guess the same applies to everything else... playing tennis with my mum is an interesting as well... i recently tried to change my grip from an continental grip to an extreme western grip... just for the sake fo trying it out... after like the first 5 shots i hit went straight into the net... my mum immediately shouted "YOUR GRIP!!"... and i yelled back "I'm trying a new one!!"... then another few loose shots here and there and she shouted again... "It's obviously not working..."... to her i guess... trying meant hitting a few shots... if it din work... it would be best to return to what was working relatively well before... kind of like sticking ur toe into the pool to test the temperature of the water in a swimming pool before deciding to jump in or not...

i persevered with the grip... much to the displeasure of my mum... haha but to me it was really testing my boundaries... and trying new things... getting out of what ur used to... ur comfort zone... haha... i mean my mum bought a new racket cos her old ones wearing out... haha she hit abt 5 balls with the new one and ran to her back to change to her old one... haha i of course.. chided her for that... i mean if u dun make an effort to get used to something... u'll never...

of course... truth me told... i'm not the adventurous kind as well... there are things and boundaries i dun want to push... haha but i guess its really finding that balance... haha to be shrewd and yet daring... people have often commented about how singaporeans are too happy to stay in their comfort zones... this of course led to the entire thing abt creativity and entrepreneurship etc etc... so at least pple ahve started to notice that we really do need to push our boundaries in order to see improvements... on the other hand... one could aslo say that if the machine is not broken then dun try to fix it... haha i mean if life's good the way it is... sometimes i really makes no sense to risk it by tweaking with something... but i guess balance really is the key word... haha

anyway i recalled what i wanted to talk about... frommers... but i'll talk abt that tmr then... haha

watched a bit of tennis today and my my... haha my admiration for santoro has jumped up a few notches yet again... haha... he was amazing today... really creating so manynice angles which the bryan brothers couldnt even get to... and the thing is... his shot really do not pack any puch at all... but its his vision and control of his racket that enables him to put the ball in a position that ultimately wins him the point... haha i salute him... haha


llodra and santoro... JB tried to imitate them saying something like "if you heet zee balle to zee buckhaand zen i vill cRoss to zee left..."

oh well.. back to studying... haha gotta make up for all those skipped lectures... haha

{10:17 PM}

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well we always learn something new everyday rite... haha today i learnt that the term "bird brain" might not be very apt afterall... apparently... in some lab which i cant recall... a crow affectionately called betty or something like that... has stunned scientists... they were studying how animals learn... and designed an experiment to test it... they created a tiny bucket... whose base was about teh size of a 50 cents coin complete with a tiny handle... and filled it with food... then they artificially created this long tube just slightly longer than betty's beak... now the tube stood upright and the bucket was lowered into it... now comes along betty... places near the food is a small piece of wire... betty sees the food and tries to reach it by stuffing her head down the tube.... but its too small and she cant reach... she tries and tries for a while... and realises it's futile... she looks around and sees the wire... grabbing it by her beak... she primitively tries to stab at the bucket from above... after a while she realsies this really sint going to help and actually starts to bend the wire using her feet... she forms a hook at one end!! she then grabs the wire at the other end by her beak and lowers it into the tube and hooks the bucket up... haha

now for those of u who think it must be a coincidence... here's the amazing part... the scientists remove the bent wire and place a fresh straight new wire and new food in to tube...betty see it and tries to get it with her beak again... but this time... she tries only once and immediately heads for the wire... and repeats the same thing... succesfully getting the food... and she does it time and times again 9 times in a row... well that to me is clearly an indication of her learning something... haha... smart little bird... haha

the reason y humans are where they are now is simply from the fact that we evolved to be bipedal and started to use our 'hands' to grasp things... eventually we fashioned tools which we could use to our advantage... and through this we developed solutions to problems we faced... even now.. if u put a human with any other animal like a lion or a tiger in a cage... we would lose the fight if we werent given access to our tools... and so the only thing special abt humans reallys is this fact that we have learnt and adapted to harnessing the resources around us to our benefit...

and yet betty the crow has show rather crudely that animals are too on occasion capable for such creativity... of course we dun expect that all crows woudl start fashioning tools to make nicer nests tomorrow... but give or take another hundreds of thousands of years... who's to say... we may be the creative species now... but at the same time... if u think abt all the things we're done.. we are really the dummest "bird brains" around... haha food for thought which i grab food for my stomach... haha bon appetit!!!

{6:54 PM}

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haha... so glad ur blog's up and active once again... love reading ur thought-provoking and sometimes morbid entries. haha!

By  Gerri, at 11:28 PM  

haha y are they morbid? haha i dun talk abt morbid stuff rite? haha maybe weird but not morbid... i hope.. haha

By  20 sec interval... fire!!, at 10:46 PM  

all the talk abt corpse and burning ur body n throwing ur ashes away... not morbid? then wat is? haha..

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haha... got back my paper today... got an A+... feel recognised for being hard working and researching a vast amount of journals... yes i even had to go to arts to grab 2 papers... one from a cartography journal and another from naval research... haha... yes math is indeed so applicable... too bad most pple just write mathematicians off as living in a world of their own and doing really useless stuff... haha... well it doesn't matter... haha pple who do math are nice pple... we'll forgive the larger half of the world for their ignorance... MUAHAHA... joking...

anyway... been seeing alot of depression posters lately... abt how it is really treatable... one of the treatments.. well.. more accurately medications... is prozac... haha amazing isnt it... how one tiny little pill can make u feel so much better... haha... one immediately starts to think about human emotion rite? i mean... to most pple... there is some sort of sacred belief that it's special... to people who are pious... they believe it's sort of a manifestation of some divine power... or to those die-heart romantics... it is something spiritual and beyond words that really makes us human... and to pple like me who are... if u will... slightly pessimistic (although i dun really see myself as such...) human emotions are just the bodies' mechanisms in reaction towards something...

i mean it all fits well with any darwinian theory of evolution... we behave the way we do cos our bodies have evolved that kind of mechanism thru the years as a means to survival... we feel pleasure from victory or success because years ago this would mean we survived or would be able to propogate our species... we feel sadness or depression as our bodies make certain that we feel as horrible as possible so that we will remember how horrible defeat really was and be reminded of that feeling the next time we fight for survival... of course these words hapiness and sadness really are 2 very general words... but i think they all arrive from the same roots... the concept of our survival thru success and our passing thru failure... anyone familar with occam's razor would instantly say this is probably the best explanation... but yet most humans associate these chemical reactions in our body as something more... when really... if we look in areas like physics or mathematics... making such assumptions more often than not results in blunders...

and the thing is... regardless of what our goals really are in life... the main aim is to "collect" happiness... be it to succeed at work... or to have a happy family or to successfully rob a bank... or even to experience pain (yes masochists feel happee from feeling pain rite?)... i mean deny it all u want.. but the ultimate goal is to make urself happee... even if ur goals are centered around making others happee... the reason u do it is cos it make u happee... it's the way i believe we have evolved... a very simplistic bodily mechanism... we just tend towards making our lifes happier... now how the body determines what makes us happee... is really a question bordering genetics and philosphy... haha

so have i really painted a very negative picture of the world? to me no... but to others yes... so why is there a disparity... why is it that to some people... living in a world as described above is depressing... or pointless even... i would not dare to even answer such a question... but i guess one of the contributing factors would be that people do not like the idea that we's just empty vessels that are controled largely by the way the chemicals in our bodies interact... it says that we are in fact really nothing... we're just machines... actors on a stage with prescripted lines... they cannot... and will not believe that because it seems like it's belittling the human race... and by our competitive spirit... we dun like to feel small and hence our distaste towards that... but really... even if one accepts this fact wholeheartly... life really still is what we make it out to be... there really is nothing depressing about it... we're not belittling ourselves in fact... we're just not making ourselves out to be something we're not...

haha on a lighter (hopefully) note... haha i had an interesting chit chat session with my mum and sis recently... we talked abt death... and our funerals... and the funnie thing is that my mum doesnt want rituals but wants us to at least pay respects... haha... my sis really couldnt be bother but wanted her cds to be sent into the 'furnace' with her... i mean it seems to me like they sort of believe in an afterlife but dun really believe in it too... haha

me? haha i dun beliveve in it and i dun really care what anyone does with my corpse when i die... haha really but i would prefer no rituals... cos everytime i go to funerals... it's really the rituals part that makes pple sadder... and to me there is no point in pple crying too much... when i die... just throw me into the furnace right away (but pls do check that i am indeed dead... hahaha)... and dun keep my ashes please... it's just ash... regular ash... from the carbon that u and i are made up of... haha there... so whoever's gonna be still alive when i die... remember this... haha i guess some pple might say this is blasphmey and yada... but well... i guess it's just that way i'm begining to think... rememebr occam's razor... haha i wanna think simple now... simple is good... it saves u from thinking too much and u dun ASS U ME more that u would need to... haha simplicity...

{9:12 PM}

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wat a cool nite it is tonight... haha... hopefully it stays that way...

going back to collect project paper tmr... haha and possibly study more... haha... thinking of buying a winter jacket on ebay... not sure i shld do it... hahaha too bad its really tough to trust pple on the opposite side of the world... think i've gotten bitten once liao... haha but ebay really is a good place to get a deal.. if only i could tell the cheats from the real bargins... hahah

anyway here's a wta tour championships pic... haha stumbled upon it last night... not sure how also.. haha ciao!


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{8:22 PM}

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hmm... last night was spent listening to some of FIR's songs... haha was listening to qian nian zi lian... and no kidding... i caould literally imagine lin qing xia piao-ing around...

haha... i can't believe i still remember her name... much less the shows i have seen her in... haha suddenly decided to go dig up some info and looking forward to watching some of these old shows again... haha apparently bride with white hair is supposed to be one of THE hongkong movie industry classics... haha and lin qing xia is supposed to be one of the great beauties of the asian screen rite? haha well she is... really... but i'm amazed i still remember... after i wuz only like in pri school when she was at her peak... haha... so clearly she must have left an impression... haha

anyway... hanmao called this morning to ask if i needed to buy travel insurance... haha i decided not to... haha we'll see how... haha anyway i decided to replan my trip a bit again... this time calculating in original currencies... which will help us decide how much money to change... haha heng ah.. my mum applied for a amex sup card for me to use during the trip... just in case of course... haha i shld have saved eunff $$ liao but just in case... at least i got an extra source... just in case... haha

anyway i was supposed to complain... apparently the ibf... has decided to experiment with scoring system in badminton for the best of 3 games to 21... which is fine with me except for the fact that now... like volleyball... one can score regardless of who is serving... haha... man... this is totally screwed up... hahaha... it doesnt make sense at all and it really destroys the integrity of the game... but well... let's wait and see how things turn out... i reckon it'll be like that entire fiasco with best of 5 games to 7... haha mark my words... haha

haha anyway din get down to studying today... haha i think i may need to go back honours room to do that... haha too many distractions at home.. haha.. but then again i'm not taking level 4000 modules liao... so i dun really need that much concentration... haha... sigh i better get to work soon... haha nitez!

{1:00 AM}

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wow... woke up this morning with the sudden urge to recalculate my expected expenditure for the grad trip... so i did a few calculations and low and behold... the euro has dropped to a 2 year low now... 1 euro is now less than 2 sing... OMG!!! hahaha time to change money... hahaha

had to release my gordon james today cos it was overdue and the library wun let u borrow if u have outstanding fines and overdue books... sians... now that person is gonna borrow the book... lets hope he doesnt check mail for 5 more days... haha then it'll be mine again... muahahaha

i decided that since i have 1 level 3000 1 level 2000 and 1 level 1000 module to study for.. (yes i finished all my level 4000 liao... haha so think sem IS slack rite?) i shall spend x/1000 days for each module where x is the level of the module... haha so that gives me 6 days of studying... haha so i need 5 studying days before the first paper on the 22... minus off sat and sun... i have to start tmr... haha tue wed thurs fri mon EXAM tue EXAM x2... there my simplified exam study plan...

every wonder y it is that for some of us... when u see someone who u sort of recognise but ur not sure... and then the person stares back... and ur eyes meet... ur eyes will dart away rite? haha i dunno abt u but that happens to me... hahhaa then later u realise it is the person and then it makes u look like u are very dao and dun wanna say hi... haha...

oh ya... anyway i shall upload a photo... it's from the group theory class... which i am an auditor (not the financial kind... go look at a dictionary if u dunno wat i mean)... and the lecturer invited the class and auditors (i think i am the only regular one) for dinner at holland village da paolo... hahah waah must have cost him a bomb man... hahah but he treated us... nice guy rite? really enjoyed his course... haha that's y i say math pple are NICE pple... hahahah how many lecturers u get will do that? haha


doesnt the place look posh... hahah we burned a tiny hole in his pocket... hahah

haha oh ya seems they changing badminton system... i'll whine tmr... ciao

{4:59 PM}

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haha wow... it's the end of the season for everyone... people taking o levels... people taking a levels... people taking semester 1 exams... people finishing up with season ending competitions... everythings coming to a close... haha it is kinda odd that i chose to chage my layout now... haha but well in preparation for what i expect to be a superb graduation trip and a fascinating 2006... i've decided to plan early... haha

this semester is laughable slack for me... i mean seriously... (not that i am complaining)... it's at its terminating stages... and wat am i doing?? watching tv.... 1 module is over... hopefully my termpaper can pull off a great win... i've always had a good track record for projects and term papers... hahaha cos i think i really take pride in my work... which is why i hate to work in groups... it's hard to have people think and move in the same direction as you... i'd pretty much rather be the controller of my own destiny... haha... yes even tkm once sed to me that somehow i do better in project related works... i guess unlike most pple who for reasons i cannot fathom... i LOVE projects... i like the freedom it provides... the redundancy of memorising anything... the preperation to deliver a fluid presentation... the way one is able to actively and verbally attempt to inform or convert one's audience... or to discuss at lengths things no examination will be able to do... i guess i quite different ya...

anyway that leaves me with only 3 papers... yes ONLY... after having consistantly 7 exams at the end of every semester... u could say i feel really weird cos this time i only have 3... i just can get that itching feeling off my back... still i need to do relatively weel for these modules... haha and i dun doubt i can do it.. it all depends on when the urgency to stduy really kicks in...

sis is away in phuket... hahah slacker girl taking a vacation one week before exams... haha well i guess she really needed it... never seen her so stressed up with her school work b4... haha she has always been the smarter one... in all aspects... even in math i believe she's intrinsically better than me... but she only does things that she thinks is worthwhile or if it involves having fun... so as a result... after psle... i've been doing slightly better than her... but i still think she possess a rare blend of logical sharpness and artistic creativity which you really very rarely do see in most people... haha but alas her goal in life is really to make the most of it and to enjoy every moment of it... which is nota bad goal if you ask me... haha it's just that i dun foresee myself being able to do that without a good grades etc... haha she on the other hand wants to travel the world.. to see every sight and take in every breath of air in every part of this globle before she breathes her last... haha funnie isnt it... how 2 people can grow up in almost the same enviroment and yet have 2 totally different dreams and ambitions... but i respect her alot for her determination... really nothing can get in her way once she's set on doing something... nothing in heaven hell nor anything in between can stop her... haha that's how goal oriented she is and it's something i always admired abt her...

ah wat a long post on this nice sunday afternoon... haha tennis masters going on... nalbandian just lost to federer... haha wat a waste... poor guy... i hope these 6 people u see below will have a better 2006... henman's getting on with age and injury... hopefully he'll get that one title he really deserves after so long... wimbledon... then he can retire in peace (and with that hill permanantly called henman hill and not murray mount or watever rubbish liddat)... dementieva should be working with richard krajicek on her serve... learning from the record holder of aces should do her a whole lot of good... so hopefully a grand slam title next year too... johansson's also aging fast... 31 so not many more years left in singles... it's been a pretty good year for him and i guess he'll be aiming to break into the top 10 again and maybe victory in davis cup... sweden has a good team... it's a pity the other johansson has been out largely the whole of this year... henin-hardenne... yeah my inspiration... finally realises she's been working too hard and her body can no longer take it... perhaps she'll rest and recover by next season and climb back up to number 1... ah... nalbandian... haha this guy is all potential but somehow doesnt seem to have it when it matters... kinda like mauresmo but a little more off... well he came close to winning wimbledon... and his record against federer is better than anyone else... so hopefully next year?? haha... davenport's no.1 again this year... not bad for one of the grande dames of tennis... aging and yet still holding strong...hope she reclaims the wimbledon title again... she really should have taken it this year... poor woman...

ahh... there my rather long post after a hiatus... good luck to all taking exams this month... hee...

{5:07 PM}

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haha... it's usually like tt... my bro and sis are completely different from me too. i guess the environment doesn't include just family. there're always friends, schoolmates, teachers, ppl we met outside to influence us.

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